Pluto Says An Opposite of Depth is Nothingness

Pluto aspectsPluto is the symbols of depth, as befitting his title “god of the underworld.” Depth, as in deep knowledge, emotions and beliefs.

The opposite of depth is not height, but shallowness. Pluto is the symbol of extremes, and it can represent the height of ecstasy as well as the depth of despair. Its opposite is simply nothingness.

Nothingness, in the sense that “nothing happens.” No ecstasy or despair, no wild success or failure, no risk and no reward. Like a flat line in EKG that symbolizes death.

Pluto Aspects Demand Depth…Or Nothingness

Whatever Pluto touches in your horoscope will have this quality of “all or nothing” extreme.  Consider the following Pluto aspects:

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Venus (also, Pluto in 7th house) will assure that relationships will be accompanied by extreme emotions. So much is expected in terms of intimacy – there needs to be absolute honesty and depth of sharing. It’s either that, or ‘nothingness’ of shallow relationships which are unsatisfying.

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Mars will necessitate intense burst of energy, a show of force. Action must be taken to fulfill desire. Energy must be exercised to the limit of one’s capacity. Otherwise, the energy might implode unto oneself in the form of weight gain or depression – a common yet tragic result from the decision to do nothing.

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Mercury will demand Herculean exertion of the mind. Mind must acquire power to know, speak and influence to the n-th degree. Alternative is the shallow stream of daily conversations about nothing – which creates deep inner anxiety and frustration.

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Sun will necessitate deeply authentic personal expression. Shallowness means denial of one’s deeply seated problems. Nothing happens until honest confrontation with oneself has been achieved.

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Moon will similarly suggest the necessity for authentic emotional expression. As a child, one’s emotions might have been hijacked by a powerful adult (most likely the mother.) Emotional patterns inherited from parental figures might need to be examined and discarded if necessary.

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Jupiter suggests depth of faith in oneself or a higher power that is needed in order to function well.

Pluto conjunct, square or opposition Saturn requires depth of commitment, effort and integrity that is required to succeed. A choice to avoid depth in these areas leads to underachievement.

A Hint About Depth

Usually a prominent Pluto placement suggests a trauma, a wound of some sort that needs to be healed. If there are no such personal issues to be solved, most likely there will be other issues that will take us deeper – like confronting the injustice that abound in the outside world. Either way, it’s heavy stuff.

With Pluto, the awareness of wounds or injustice already exists, at least subconsciously. So the choice to do nothing equals denial, which drains our power and deadens our emotions.

Wherever Pluto is found in the horoscope, we may need to bravely confront what is wrong within ourselves or our immediate environment. The alternative is stultifying, frustrating nothingness…

Are you a Plutonian? How do you deal with this need for depth, and an aversion to shallowness in the area touched by Pluto?

About Hiroki Niizato

Hiroki Niizato is a professional consulting astrologer in Florida, serving clients in US and abroad. He has been practicing astrology professionally since 2001. Hiroki is a highest honor graduate of the demanding Master’s Degree Certification Course in Astrology by Noel Tyl.

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Comments

  1. What if pluto is conjunct the rising? (pluto in twelth)

  2. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Ascendant represents identity, so depth (in the sense discussed above) must be explored in order for you to know yourself.

  3. Anonymous says:

    sun opposition pluto, mercury opposition pluto, pluto in 3rd house, mars square pluto, pluto sextile ascendant, moon and venus in 8th house – I can't stand shallowness so much it's hard for me to make smalltalk to even make a friend, and the friends I do make don't last long,trust issue, I know this all sounds absurd, I feel intense when feelings are triggered, apparently I look damned intimidating (scare people) and sound so too, ( I'm a girl)people tend to stay away even when I try hard to be light and friendly… I'd rather feel intense, than nothing, unless it's fear, than I'll take the nothing…

    • anonymous: I understand your plight. I also have sun opposition pluto (sun in the fourth, pluto in the 9th conj. the midheaven. I seem to scare people away with my intensity as well. I thrive on intensity and nothingness or status quo, flat lined existence makes me insane.

      • Oh it’s such a comfort to hear you say this about flat lined existence. However; just this morning I was telling myself to cool it. OK, I sense things in others ( Pluto square Mercury exact makes me quite inconveniently an empath) and if people around me and are too unconsciouly dysfunctional, I start to obsess and project. ( I’m not Miss Perfect by any means so why do this! ) The trouble is, I’m a Sun square Jupiter so wish that I could muzzle myself as I can’t help bursting out tactlessly! However; for the last four years I’ve had refreshing contact with Mediums, Psychics and Healers. This seems to gentle Pluto down.

  4. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Yep, that's all Plutonian.

    Thank you,
    Hiroki

    • jordan dennis says:

      I have Pluto in Scorpio conjunct P.O.F in the third house. Pluto is opposing my Taurus M.C,and squares my Leo Mars,Pisces Saturn, and Virgo Ascendant! When it comes to words and communication,i don’t just want someone to hear them,i want you to feel them.

  5. Hiroki, great post, loved it. Of course being a Plutonian + Scorpio to boot makes me smile and go yeah, know that thanks for confirming it. Depth is a keyword for me, can't seem to escape that even though my Neptunian side which is also strong wants to!

    What have I got? Sun/Neptune/Mer all conj in Scorpio, Moon sq Pluto, Pluto in 7th conj Desc/opp Asc, etc etc.

  6. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Thank you Lise, appreciate the corroboration!

  7. Anonymous says:

    Hi Hiroki!

    Thanks for the article on Pluto. Since I have Pluto opposite the ascendant (which means Pluto conjunct descendant) at 26 degree, does this mean that in any relationship between me and my partner will have transformation effect on me? I had 2 relationship so far, and I must admit it was very intense. By the way, my seventh house is Scorpio cusp as well.

    And can you tell me what is the effect is Pluto make a square aspect to Midheaven? I found out I always have an issue with authority figure.

  8. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Pluto in contact with the Angles affect what kind of relationships and work you're attracted to.

    So in this case, qualities such as depth and intensity will be important.

    • Thanks for the stimulating article, Niizato-san. I am deeply curious about my Pluto conjunct Saturn on the fifth house cusp, and I notice that you didn’t include any discussion of Saturn. Any thoughts? Much appreciated!

      • Actually Pluto-Saturn contact is discussed in the article along with Pluto-Jupiter contact. I separated it for clarity, thanks. There is another related article that goes deeply into Pluto-Saturn so you may want to look at that one.

  9. This is the first thing I’ve read about Pluto that I could realistically identify with. I am definitely Plutonian. Pluto sextile sun, square asc/des, Venus , mercury & Saturn and sextile Neptune. All or nothing is truly the way these aspects seem to manifest for me. I’m an intense person but I only seem to have had trouble when I tried to be otherwise. There is really no way I know of to satisfy a need for depth other than accepting and honoring it.

  10. I have a Pluto- IC conjunction in Scorpio at 7 degrees and Pluto opposites to my Sun, Mercury and MC in Taurus too.
    My parents are too strict/dominant and I’ve had a rather depressing childhood. With transit Saturn is about to conjunct my IC I’m learning to forgive them. I can’t call it a huge trauma but it was absolutely a hard time for me. Pluto-Mercury opposition made me write diaries a lot (like freaking 10 volumes back in my teenage years.) Recently I threw away them though in order to let go of past formally. This has been my Plutonic transformation so far. Still continuing cause I’m still living with my parents…

    • Thanks for sharing your experience. These measurements suggest strong parental suppression – once you get over them (or get “away” from them, in your case) aspects like Pluto opposing Mercury can turn into persuasive communication.

  11. Very nice article and so true. Kudos!

  12. 12th house virgo says:

    I have Pluto in my first house. I late Virgo rising with Mars at 0, Pluto at 6, and Mercury at 11 Libra.

    I seem angry or upset to others so often, when really I am just passionate. That’s unfortunate, but, I can’t own other people’s sense of me. I just keep digging deeper into myself for answers. Pluto transiting my 4th house now has been rough, but has helped me see myself as the power in my life.

  13. Laurent Botti says:

    I put up everyday with a painful Mars/Uranus/Pluto conjunction in IV, opposed to Saturne R in X.
    Do you know a worst configuration to deal with? ;-)

  14. My Taurus Sun is in the 8th house, Pluto in Virgo is in the 10th house. Sun is square to Pluto. The other Scorpio related things are Jupiter in Scorpio {square to Pluto}, and Neptune in Scorpio { Neptune rising in the 1st house close to Ascendant.

    The rest of my Pluto aspects are easy aspects. I think all the Pluto I have is kind of hidden, because both my Taurus Sun and rising sign of Libra are both ruled by Venus. But people still look at me as if they can’t trust me ! LOL.

  15. HECATE SUN says:

    I manage an unaspected 0° capricorn (Hecate) sun in the 8th, with only a trine to Chiron in the 12th and a sextile to my 0° scorpion North Node in the 6th (conjunct Eros and Vertex); the latter is the resident house of my libran Pluto, trining my saturnian Venus (10th, aquarius, opposite Saturn), Mars and Neptune (7th, sag.), r. saturn (4th, leo), squaring my moon conjunct mercury (9th, capricorn).

    In relating I do seem to act out the other persons subconscious repressed self -which makes it easy for me to know them- with rather strange results: a lot of men fall suddenly in love with me (actually it is their lost self) and people easily project their wishes and fears unto me, but don’t really get to know me (without knowing that themselves).

    I made it my profession to diagnose and treat people with their deep lost selves (e.g. trauma, burnout,…) including using the newest brain technology (uranus 6th and venus in aquarius) implementing it as a pioneer (capricorn sun) in the clinical and academical world in my country and even beyond if you count in the relation with in depth psychology.

    I made this happen while transiting Pluto was visiting my sun-moonmidpoint (cap, 8th). Now, transiting pluto is on my progressed descendant. I don’t know what to expect… but with al the Saturnian influence, I could use some more Venusian flair :)

  16. Great article! How would you compare pluto aspects to planets in pluto’s 8th house? Is it the same all-or-nothing quality and need for depth?

  17. Hello

    I have quite a lot of Pluto aspects, Pluto conjunct Sun, P conjunct Saturn, P conjunct Mercury, P opposition Moon, P conjunct Acs. What do you say? Plus a Scorpio rising. I agree with the explanations above, regarding Pluto aspects. Either we face ourselves (which can be beautiful), we know we perceive life and relationships on a very deep level, or we can live with a flegmatic attitude, cold as a stone. But that would lead to lot of pain. Superficiality is just not our thing.

  18. Thank you for your article,

    I have natal Pluto conjunct Saturn, Jupiter and my Sun- but have just spent a year on a very wasteful relationship where to the degree a mans Pluto conjuncts my sun.
    I’ve been nick named queen of chaos by close friends- he is prince of nothing. Not exactly the nice cosy kind of vibe to it eh!?!
    I guess that comes tied into the moon south node conjunction article of yours I read recently!
    (I wanted the Earth the sun the moon and the stars in our favor- but I believe this article translates well for relationships not only natal aspects- there is nothing)
    Well guess its time to ignite my own Pluto and transform this one way disaster into some beautiful peace of mind.
    Thanks again xxx.

  19. Natal Pluto (5th) square Mercury (2nd) near exact orb here.

    I’ve been a self taught student of astrology/metaphysics for over 20 years. Although, I’m quite a skeptic of belief in general. I yearn for a day when all ideologies have been put aside.

    “How do you deal with this need for depth, and an aversion to shallowness in the area touched by Pluto?”
    I do a lot of research on society, history, and psychology. It feels as if I live most of my life internally. I want to express my true feelings with others. But my ideas are so counter to most and my expression can be so strong that I can sometimes hurt others. So I am very cautious.

    Anyway, nice website you have here. It’s so nice to not see all of the BS advertising we get bombarded with on most websites.

    • 11th Pisces moon trine 6th Scorpio pluto (Libra rules this house), vertex in scorpio conjunct pluto, part of fortune in scorpio, Ceres conjunct vertex in Scorpio, lilith/retrograde juno/moon sextile Neptune/sun trine Uranus/north node all conjunct in 8th Capricorn (pluto transit in it), south node 2nd Cancer trine pluto.

      Astrodienst has been said to have too wide of orb acceptance so if it wasn’t I might have a Mercury leo square Pluto. I wonder what this says about me. Thank you for reading.

      • I’ll probably be covering Mercury-Pluto aspect in the near future. As for the rest, may I recommend that you focus not on sextiles and trines but on hard aspects, as they contain the most energy for a productive change.

  20. Otherhuman says:

    Denial of death …

    My Pluto in 3rd house Scorpio squares Ve-ma-ju trio in 12th house Leo and Saturn in 6th house Aquarius …

    Too extreme?? :\

    Pluto squares my Leo ascendant and Gemini sun squares Virgo moon

    I want to say nothing … At the same time I want to tell you about everything …

    • That’s a heavy duty emphasis of Plutonian theme, focused around the issues of thoughts and communication. One of the highest expression here would be genuine emotional honesty in your communication with your significant others.

  21. Sue Ann Edwards says:

    I express Gratitude for the sharing of your insight and wisdom. I have difficulties attributing any experience in Life or of Life with a value of nothing. To me, and I do understand the significance that meaning is entirely and individual choice, depth implies just that, a deeper understanding, a deeper appreciation, a deeper love, etc. Not a lack of it.

    A sailboat can sail the same ocean as a whale can swim its depths. The sailboat will be carried to and fro by passing winds and seas, tempests and calms, while the whale below lives in peace and relative calm. Both experience the same ocean.

    • Well said Sue Ann, with poetic images too! In this article I’m intentionally being a bit extreme in using the word “Nothing” opposite from “Depth” – for people with Plutonian horoscopes, this kind of intensity speaks to them. And then there are others that value peace and harmony above all else – which is completely valid, as long as it’s authentic for who they are…

      • Sue Ann Edwards says:

        For myself, I found that genuine peace and harmony was to be found within those depths. I don’t happen to enjoy all the splashing that takes place on the surface. What I forgot to share before and what may explain it in part, is that I have Pluto conjunct Jupiter in Leo with a Libra moon, and a cancer ascendant conjunct Uranus.

        For me, “peace” is a response and the only way it will ever become a condition of my world is when it becomes my response to it. We have to place it there, put it there, express it, in order for it to be there.

        Again, thank you for your insight and in your open sharing of it.

  22. Thanks for the article. Really enjoy reading all of the articles on your website. I totally relate to the depth of feeling and thinking; I have a Scorpio Moon conj Jupiter and Neptune in the 8th house ruled by Libra sextile Pluto conj Mercury conj Venus in the 6th, squared by Mars in the third. Pisces Asc. I also have had violence to deal with..

  23. wow, that’s me, “the one who doesn’t take prisoners”, as a friend of mine would say. I’m a virgo sun with Libra rising, conjunt Pluto in 12th. I also have a Venus-Pluto conjunction, Pluto sextile Jupiter, Pluto square Saturn and Pluto sextile Neptune (generational aspect). How much am I plutonian? Sometimes I feel like I’m fooling people by showing them my elegant, attractive and much more socially pleasant virgo/libra face… but it’s accurate to say that without depth I get annoyed very quickly. I’m not a femme fatale and I don’t fall in love easily but, if I do, it’s an obsession that lasts for ages. .. though I’m not a stalker or act overly jealous. I like having room for myself and leave plenty of it to my beloved ones. That’s probably Uranus in 1st, not conjunct to my Asc. I’m very much attracted by Scorpio and Aries men: the first feels like a karmic bond, the second is a more reassuring one.

  24. carol orr says:

    I have transiting pluto conjuncting my moon as we speak. It started around March 6 within half a degree and now is right on top of my moon for the next few weeks. My husband wanted me to go on a sailing trip on March 6 and I said No. I was afraid someone would die on the trip. I stayed home and on March 7 a dear friend died unexpectedly here at home. I have scorpio rising and pluto at the tip of a kite opposing venus so I’m familiar with pluto….but this moon thing….the horror stories that I have read….losing one’s home and everything that makes one feel safe. I’m trying to prepare myself. At some point everyday I feel abandoned and then at other points I feel like I’m fine all alone with nothing. The moon is in the 3rd house. I don’t know if I’m supposed to hide out by myself, go through every belonging in my house and throw out stuff no longer useful…. or what. I periodically get mad at everyone I know…all my life….sometimes I say something and sometimes I don’t. I am in my early 70s…. I don’t know what attitude to take. Just ride the conjunction out and wait for it to go direct 3 more times next year and then ride that out. I’m afraid if I don’t do anything or hang onto deep feelings about this or that…the transit will go into my body and I’ll get sick. Any suggestions?

    • Hi Carol, sorry to see so much worry around this transit…Please consider that your fear about the transit is creating unnecessary suffering within you, and the astrology sites you’ve had the misfortune to visit are doing you and others a disservice by spreading fear and worry. Those “horror stories” you read are not the typical expression of the transit. Please think about getting a private consultation for a more realistic assessment of your horoscope, including this transit.

    • Oh dear! Sorry to hear that. I haven´t experienced Pluto transiting my moon yet, but it´s about to happen as the planet is slowly aproaching my 4th house, where I have my moon (which is bad aspected in the natal by the way). Now it´s starting to conjunct the IC. I understand you so well, I feel I don´t know what attitude to take either. I wish you all the luck, Carol. Keep posting to know how you´re doing.

  25. How about Pluto in 12th? I´ve read all planets in 12th are weakened or in some way hidden, they don´t show they true powers. Does this mean that all Pluto strengths like regeneration or willpower fade away in my natal and in my life? It also trines my moon.

    Great article by the way!!

    • Hi Lou, Pluto is not necessarily weakened in the 12th – sometimes it finds powerful expression in institutions and governments. At other times this placement can lead to the feeling of “the world doesn’t understand me!” The key is to do some work to discover your own deep self, so that you can share it with others.

      • Pluto has been passing over my twelfth house for a long time and all that time I’ve been one of the volunteers on the management committee of a disability institution. I’ve brought my own skeletons out of the psychological closet and shared them meaningfully during this time. Have also been uncharacteristically openly vulnerable.
        So far, so good.

      • Thanks for the answer! Yes, you´re always so accurate. “The world doesn’t understand me!” I feel exactly like this so often. As for the discovery of one self, I think I need some therapy.

        Now a scary 4th house Pluto transit is coming, is nearly conjunt my IC and I´m quite pessimistic about how Pluto will turn my life upside down. Last time transpersonal planets like Neptune and Uranus crossed my IC and 4th house, my mum died and my home and personal life suffered a big painful change.

  26. My sun trine Pluto less then one degree. Mars, Venus and Jupiter square Pluto (natal) less than one degree as well.
    Mid heaven and ascendant trine Pluto.
    Depth is opposit of nothingness is correct here.
    Usually I feel nothing but if I meet intense person who has much depth I feel it right away.
    I like their wisdom and depth.
    I like having some kind of goal to reach.
    I have sun conduct Saturn as well.

  27. Great to hear your wonderful words. I have the blessing to be born with Pluto conjunct Uranus in my first house with a Leo Ascendant with them both square my sun conjunct mercury in my fourth opposite saturn and Chiron in my 8th :)

    I should be dead ! Many times the draw of death has equalled the draw of life — and the beauty of life with Pluto is that it makes you see that there is no life and there is no death – there is just experience — and this is a continuum – it does not stop or end with birth or death —

    I am 50 now and I have transiting Saturn touching (conjunct) my Sun right now ‘warming’ my nice Plutonian t-square up — :) Today I felt like death warmed up in the morning but by lunch I fixed my body up and felt great – the power of healing with Pluto is immense — fueled with the abilities of the mind that come with Pluto’s gifts – it is easy to regenerate this body.

    So yes Pluto is a special power. And how do I deal with the need for depth and the aversion of shallowness — a lot of time spent on my own! Ha ha – I am outgoing with people for 2 – 3 mins – my Leo ascendant let’s me dance with people and then I simply disappear if the energy has not moved to something more interesting for me … I just leave people to it and be on my own …

    So thank you for this space to share and thank you for your sharing.

    Blessings

    David

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